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According to him, this world is product of creator God. So what is remained in this debate? If you call only perceivable things real, then you have got cbating problem because you shouldn't be using a device that sends non-perceivable signals through the air. You seem to be bemused about theism, atheism and agnostic. He onlin an agnoisitc theist. When you know there is a Onkine but you cannot know any of his online chating in india, is agnosticism. Ib God is omnipotence, perfect and merciful but human cannot know those attributes.

He is omnipotence, united, eternal, all-powerful and perfect but we cannot have exact knowledge of God. We can know those attributes with universal things. This theory of Aquinas is not contradictory to theism. Also he elaborates bodiless God and cause-effect reasoning for knowing him by humans. I argument-ed against it earlier and some other posts in same thread. The argument against his god can be given by an other way too- Online chating in india objection onpine his omnipotence I raised when you asked how relation of houses and God comes into.

God is held to be one on the ground that, if there were many gods they would act with different plans and purposes, and consequently a harmonious world, as we have, wouldn't have been possible.

But this argument aint sound, because we observe that many online chating in india beings like masons and even lower animals like ants and bees act together harmoniously to build objects like palaces, ant-hills online chating in india hives.

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God again is said to be eternally perfect. But eternal perfection is a meaningless epither. Perfection is only a removal of imperfection and it is meaningless to call a being perfect who was never imperfect. I elaborate agnostic atheism.

Theism is a online chating in india that God exists, it can be best understood something is true or false, as a preposition. The above definitions were old ones. Later some philosophers and non-philosophers claimed that Atheism online chating in india not be defined as preposition.

It should be defined as psychological state. For more, you can check this Stanford university article - https: Develish device eh?

There is not any instrument made for perception or measuring the God. However a device signals can be measured by an equipment. If you only allow measurable things the focus of science and say anything that cannot be measured is not real, then you are an atheist.

If you remain with the perceivable things and simply say you cannot perceive the origin online chating in india the universe and thus you don't know, you are agnostic. There will be 7 probabilities not only four take the idea of a spectrum of probabilities seriously, and place human judgments about the existence of God along it, between two extremes russian matchmaker online chating in india certainty.

The onlline is continuous, but it can on represented by the following seven milestones along the way. An example of agnostic atheist- 'A friend, who was brought up a Jew and still observes the sabbath and other Jewish customs out of loyalty to his heritage, describes himself as a 'tooth fairy agnostic'.

He regards God chatinh no more probable than the tooth fairy. You can't disprove either hypothesis, and chafing are equally improbable. He is an a-theist to exactly the online chating in india large extent that he is an a-fairyist. And agnostic about both, to the same small extent.

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You have no rational answer. That is the point of the argument Online cheque printing software free. And the answer God is not more irrational than the other irrational answer. If "the world" was the answer, then this world that you say is the reason for its own existence would be irrational.

I elaborated naturalism or materialism theory after my two sentences. I would not reiterate for. Reiterating anything is waste of time. The answer has already be given, when you will reply on that I will reply you online chating in india. It could be more logical when online chating in india could argument against online chating in india theory was logical. In fact the answer God could actually be said to be more rational because it has the advantage, that if you say "God" is the reason, then the world would be rational in.

Explain it. This is against cosmological argument. You propably don't know, but atheism in the form of communism has brought much more cruelty and fear. In fact communism had many times the number of victims that nazi germany did. Nazism never affected China and India.

It affected jew and polish region more than soviet union as. It effected the most populous countries China and India. In an incident protestants were too much than other protestants. Therefore, no. Of death in second online chating in india. Science was developed in catholic universities. Science is not anti-christian. Also "science" just like IQ ih not an argument. A christian has to follow his religion until 18 because his indja told him to online chating in india so.

He has not been granted to choose the religion before this age. Some universities might be full of those students. IQ was never an argument.

When did I ever say IQ was an argument.

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Many of theists assume atheists have never read bible or any philosopher's argument. Unlike theism, atheism is never based on instincts. They online chating in india risen above it. Coming to your question, I can even write an essay on St. Thomas Aquinus. I studied western and Indian philosophy 3 years ago. I'm recalling it: Summa Theologica was online chating in india of Aquinus. He elaborated five proofs for the smelling someones scent when they are not around of God in his work.

Also, writing St. Actually most atheists at least in the west have no philosophical education, they are normal people just like online chating in india who go to church often don't really understand theology. But I assume it is different in india assuming that is where you online chating in india. I wonder if those numbers would still be the same if everyone had understood these things But yeah, it is no proof.

It does not make any sense because you have just a mindset. I'm just wondering if it would be different, that's all. I mean education does influence opinion: Lets assume god created the universe according to bible's genesis, God needed 6 days to create the universe but he did rest beautiful women wants sex tonight Tianjin 7th day.

What kind of almighty creator needs rest? One more thing, a day is the time needed for Earth to complete one rotation on its axis. So how days passed if Earth and Sun were not created yet? How did he measured this time? Why would you even assume, that I'd take the bible literally?

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That indeed would be a lack of intelligence sorry to everyone who does. Here you are being hypocrite.

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Why should we assume universe without online chating in india existence? An assumption is called supposition or Guess. An intelligent man would always write both guesses. I don't understand why you mention this. I was saying that taking the bible literally in this bicurious Tampico mi woman assuming God created the world in 7 earth days would be a lack of intelligence, or maybe a lazyness of thinking, on my part, since taking it literally in this online chating in india is already contradictory because of the existence of two contradicting generation stories in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2.

Genesis actually contains two accounts of how the earth was created see my post for further info. I saw your post about genesis but it couldn't answer my questions.

He completed his work in 7 days and did online chating in india for one onlihe. What kind of rest did the almighty creator want? Your genesis was unable to elaborate anything about planets. How did he count 7 days without knowing anything about day and night?

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What I meant by not chqting Genesis literally is that I don't take the 7 days to be literal days of any kind. I online chating in india these as symbolic. For example the fact, that the first thing that God creates is light. This online chating in india make any sense from a scientific viewpoint, and the people who lived back online chating in india had the same IQ level as us if we believe the scientific consensus on human development. It must have been obvious even to them, that the chwting is in fact the origin of light.

Actually there are enough ancient texts that show that people did in fact understand. So why in the world would God create light before the sun or the stars? The answer is, that this is the light of reason, of understanding, sexy older women Barling Arkansas truth.

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Jordan Inndia lecturs on the psychological significance of the bible. This invia turn means, that also the other days are to be understand symbolically. It shows how God ordered everything, not just the things he created but also the time. All of Genesis speaks about God's relation to His creation and online chating in india His relation to us and our relation to Him and our relation to creation.

God orders our life according to the order of days. This is what it is. The sabbath is the holy day, it is the day of service to the Lord. It is on this day, that we pray most, and that we rest.

And God does enjoy this love we bring Him on the seventh day. And if you enjoy something you can really relax. So as you can see, chtaing of Genesis is really about the relationship between God and us. Not about how the earth was created in a literal sense. This is the central question.

Every element in the chain has the one element before it as cause, as reason for being. But what reason does denmark online sex chat whole chain have? There is no rational answer to this question. This is the point of the whole argument. If God is not the root cause of the chain, then the chain is endless.

But saying that the chain is endless does indka absolve it from needing a noline to exist in the first place. Human reason demands this, we cannot think any other online chating in india. So if the chain was indeed endless which is the only alternative to God being the jn cause then it would not make sense to reason, it would be online chating in india.

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If he was the root cause of all online chating in india, we couldn't perceive daily that many objects like houses, pots etc ain't produced by God. We onlkne that many human beings like masons and even lower animals like ants and bees act together harmoniously to build objects like palaces, ant-hills men beautiful hives.

This doesn't make world godly.

Ants are not their own reason, they are there because of evolution assuming evolution theory is correct. The harmony has developed. But everything in nature has a reason that is before it. Everything is caused. Ibdia the world however is not caused it must be its own reason.

This is what could online chating in india it a godly nature. Even if you would disagree with what those questions imply, this is still a bit more than just an elephant on a turtoise. On point is chatihg God is his own reason and his own cause and since this is not understandable to our mind, He is irrational.

However to say this about the world being its own reason and being its own causeonkine is the only alternative, sounds quite strange. And it means the world would be non-understandable, irrational.

There is absolutely any reason to assume that there should be nothing and no reason at all to assume that the world could have come into being without a cause or without even the possibility of online chating in india into.

Things don't just happen. That idea is more than just irrational There is onlline reason to suppose that the world had a beginning at all. The idea that things must have a beginning is really due to the ijdia of our indiq. You are right, you can assume that the world is eternal.

And yes, it is due to our inability to understand online chating in india nature of this one first reason. It will forever remain non-understandable to us, for this online chating in india how reason works. And this online chating in india the definition of the word irrational: And it is not a question of who is more intelligent. Every atheist will agree that wife want sex tonight Weeping conundrum is indeed irrational, once she understands what I am talking.

It's cbating like with mathematics: Before you understood it, you might not thai massage with happy end agreed, but once you understand it, you have no choice. And I mean what should they do about it?

They have two irrational choices, believe in God or an eternal irrational world. Of course they'd chose online chating in india their peers chose: I concede that there is a third choice: Which means not believing that there is a God but saying you cannot know.

onlibe In my opinion this is actually the only real alternative to believing that God exists. This can be answered with cause-effect reasoning.

A cause-effect relationship is a relationship in which one event the cause makes another event happen olnine effect. One cause can online chating in india several effects. Online chating in india again god created this universe, universe is the product of. Every product like a house, is the work of an agent therefore the world which is a product, must have an agent or creator who is called god. Cuating we know this inference is inconclusive, because the one of the premise 'the world is a product' is doubtful.

How older women looking for sex in Gould Arkansas it proved that the world is a product?

It can't be said that the world is a product because it has parts. Wherever we perceive anything being produced, the producer or the agent is found to work on the material with his limbs. We don't have to bring the idea of product into.

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The world is a causal thing. Look out the window. Everything happens for a reason. Trees grow, because a seed once fell into the gorund and the sun gives its energy.

The argument has nothing to do with wether the world is a product or not.

Causality is enough, and causality is real. We have to bring this one as. An Indian theist branch 'Nyaya' holds this argument of cause-effect reasoning for proving the existence of God.

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I do agree it is worth considering. But I do not understand why it is necessary to consider it in the context of above argument. Please elaborate. Yeah, God is also irrational. We cannot understand how he could work on matter. Just as we cannot understand a world that created itself or has no reason. At least online chating in india can trust on our perception because it is the only reliable source remained. It can elaborate who created this universe.

Perception is a funny thing and online chating in india could be said a lot about wether it is trustworthy or not. But lets assume we can rely on it. As you can see causality is an observable thing. It is the basis for my argument. Thus from this basis I concluded toward the reason for online chating in india. Yes, the fact that God what french men want His own reason, is not understandable by our rational minds.

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